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''Two Snakes''

THE LAMB AND THE GOAT MUST COME TOGETHER. PURE LOVE DESCENDED FROM THE PINNACLE OF HEAVEN. UNITED WITH PURE HATRED FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL.
(Message on Insert)

Sleeve - Front (North American Press)
Sleeve - Back (North American Press)
Vinyl (North American Press)


Stats:

General:
Tracks: A - Two Snakes Part 1 / B - Two Snakes Part 2
Year: 2006 / 2007 (B&W sleeve versions) & 2008 (Colour sleeve versions, pressed 2008, released 2009)
LabelHG Fact (Japan version) All others self released - FUR-006,  
Matrix A: FLV-205.680 A  SST  Fucked Up
Matrix B: FLV-205.680 B   SST  Two Snakes for the World

Pressing Info:
  • White label tour press (B&W sleeve)  -300 (Of which 100 or so UK Tour variant, 200 or so Euro Tour variant)
  • North American Press (B&W sleeve) - 200
  • German Version (*Colour sleeve)  200 or 250
  • Greek Version (Colour sleeve) 350
  • Japanese Version (Colour sleeve) 350
Inserts:
North American version does not have a regular insert
All other versions have lyric sheet, printed in language specific to region

Variants:
There are three B&W-sleeve and three colour-sleeve variants:
  • UK Tour 06 - Black & White sleeve, white stamped labels, English lyric sheet
  • Euro Tour 07 - Black & White sleeve, white stamped labels, German lyric sheet
  • North American - Black & White sleeve, printed labels, No lyric sheet
  • Δύο Φίδια - Colour sleeve, printed labels, Greek lyric sheet
  • Zwei Schlangen - *Colour sleeve, printed labels, German Lyric sheet
  • Japanese - Colour sleeve, printed labels, Japanese lyric sheet

*German versions - Discogs refers to 50 copies with paper sleeve, which apepars to be based on the HG blurb on the LFG post -  it is assumed the Euro tour version is being mistaken as a variant of  ''Zwei Schlangen'' as both have German lyric sheets. Please advise if you know otherwise.



Variants:

Black & White Sleeves:
There are two variants of this; the Tour Pressing and the  North America pressing. The Tour Pressing also has two label variants. These are all discussed below:


Black & White Sleeve: (Folded Out) - Front
Black & White Sleeve: (Folded Out) - Back


1. Tour Press: There is a UK & a Euro Tour variant. Both have the same sleeve, white-label vinyl and dust covers numbered out of 300.

UK Tour version has the labels stamped: ''UK Tour 06'' and comes with a double-sided English lyric sheet





Euro Tour version has the labels stamped ''Euro Tour 07'' and comes with a single-sided German lyric sheet.






From a total of 300, it seems the first hundred or so where used for the UK version and the remainder were given a different stamp and insert and used for the Euro version. These numbers are based on the highest number UK version found during ''research'' being # 99/300 and the lowest Euro version being # 114/300.

Tour Press Variants: These are numbered out of 300
Left: UK Tour 06  # 096
Right: Euro Tour 07 # 114
Tour Press Inserts - Front
Left: UK Tour version is double-sided and written in English
Right: Euro Tour Version is single-sided and written in German
Tour Press Inserts
Left: Reverse of UK version
Right: Front (again) of Euro version (reverse is blank)


2. North America Press:
The sleeve is similar to the tour version, but the text on the front cover is slightly smaller and the image quality is sharper. The labels are printed and there is no insert.

North America Press:
B&W Sleeve, printed labels, no insert.
Tour Sleeve Compared with North America Sleeve:North America sleeve has slightly smaller text and sharper image quality than Tour sleeve.
Left:
Tour Sleeve
Right: North America Sleeve


Colour Sleeves:

There are three variants (Greek, German & Japanese). The sleeves and inserts are all alike, but differentiated by the text, which is translated into the language of each of the three countries. The sleeve artwork comprises the original image, but is screen printed with a reflective silver background and red snake silhouettes.

Colour Sleeve: (Folded Out) - Front
'Text Bars': This picture shows the tops of the three different sleeves for comparison. The sleeves are otherwise identical.
Top: Greek
Middle: German
Bottom: Japanese
Colour Sleeve: (Folded Out) - Back
Inserts:
This picture shows the inserts of the three variants for comparison.
Left: Greek
Middle: German
Right: Japanese
Vinyl:
This picture shows the disks of the three variants for comparison.
Top Left: Greek
Bottom: German
Top Right: Japanese




Notes:

Mircea Eliade Quote (intro to Two Snakes lyrics on Hidden World album insert / inlay - 2006):
''To be no longer conditioned by a pair of opposites results in absolute freedom''

LA Record Interview (June 28th 2007):
Was ‘Two Snakes’ inspired by Snakes on a Plane? 
Jonah Falco (drums): Definitely not. Maybe subliminally, like maybe a fleeting relationship to that film. Although Mike does have a severe fear of flying, so maybe that influenced it. That was a very intuitive question on your part.

AU Interview - LFG Post (Jan 3rd 2008)
AU- Was the song ‘Two Snakes’ inspired in any way by Conan The Barbarian? *adopts Arnie voice* “two snakes……..facing each other!” 
10KM- Ha, no, I have never seen that movie. Its from the medical staff - the caduceus. The song is just supposed to be about the entwinement of opposites, and snakes were just the coolest symbol we could think of - it could have been about the double-helix. While we were recording we had an article about this two headed snake that had just been born somewhere.


LFG Post (Jan 12, 2009)
Two Snakes

Hello fans. The "Two Snakes" 7" has just been released in Japan on HG Fact. For those keeping track, that makes it: England, Germany, Greece, North America, Japan issues for this single. Still waiting on Israel, Yukon, Azerbaijan and Kiribati editions in the future. Here is the blurb from the label, so you can try to order one (there are 250 copies only):

(ps you aren't gonna get one)






HG Fact release blurb

FUCKED UP - Two Snakes HG-236 (7"EP) ltd 350 copies!

The track is originally on the 2xLP Hidden World released by Jade Tree but was re-mastered and separated on two 7inch sides. Probably the most powerful track on the Hidden World 2xLP. Fucked Up are from Toronto Canada and play tuneful hardcore. On the records they expanded the bondaries of hardcore with a lot of cool arrangements and ideas and bring in many other influences but live all songs are shorter and in the face, just plain hardcore. A band with a  lot of ideas, humor, content and success!


Two Snakes:  
Snake 1: Why are me measured in inches?
Snake 2 We don't have feet






Sleeve Notes:

Two Snakes Mermaids image in art nouveau reference book





''Epics in Minutes''

(The Secret 'ish' 7'')


........ ........... ........?

Sleeve:
 Generic white dust cover, most are hand-numbered in
bottom left-hand corner.
Detail:
Most are numbered out of 1000



Vinyl:
Self released by band, labels same as Deranged releases, but without Deranged Logo

Picture Sleeve - Front:
Folded paper with photocopied image on one side. Various images were used - see below for more examples.
Not all copies have a picture sleeve, some just have the dust cover described above. 

Picture Sleeve - Folded out



Stats:

General:
Tracks: Epics in Minutes B/W Search For The Words
Released: 2003
Label: Self Released - FU: 001
Matrix A: REDHERRING-RED  RE1
Matrix B: REDHERRING-HERRING   RE1

Pressing Info:
Believed to be 300, but numbered out of 1000, some have the fake epics vinyl...

Inserts:
No regular insert.
    Variants:
    Several different sleeves and covers, many are unique.


    Notes: 

    Most come with a generic white dust sleeve numbered out of 1000. Some also come with a fold-out photocopied picture sleeve, some are also personalised. There are various jacket pictures, some of the images have been used more than once, but may be cropped differently. Some of the images reference FU themes, others are random. A few examples are shown below.

    Given away, the name of the person receiving the record was (supposedly) recorded in a note book to deter flipping. Has 'Red Herring' message etched into run-out; see also 'Baiting with Epics Labels'. It's generally supposed that there were 300 copies; compared to the other singles, a lot seem to have been kept by the original owners.      

    Some disks may be fake?


    Sleeve Variations:


    #24/1000 - Man in medical mask


    #43/100000000
    # 55/1000 - 'Blonde woman in zip-top' - half panel of sleeve
    #59/1000 - 'Saddam Hussein with sword' - comes with ''stomp on a mod!'' stamped poly cover


    #? / 1000 'Stomp' stamped / type-writen sleeve (pic from FU instagram)
    #60/1000 - 'Mark Frechette'
    #61 & #65/1000 - 'Saddam Hussein with sword' - two records, same image on sleeve, but cropped and orientated differently
    #61 - Reverse of above (left) sleeve, image orientated 'landscape'
    #65/1000 - Reverse of above (right) sleeve, image orientated 'portrait'
    # 78/1000 - 'Blonde woman in zip-top' 
    #88 Hitler - Same copy as above, this one has had a few owners.
    Modern Nazis use the number 88 as an abbreviation for the salute Heil Hitler. The letter H is eighth in the English alphabet, whereby 88 becomes HH.
    # 98/1000 - 'Dance of Death' detail 

    # 119/1000 -  Re-used generic Artista sleeve. Dust sleeve personalised with typed text by JF for Eric Smith (former drummer in Career Suicide) 
    # 119/1000 - As described above
    # 119/1000 - As described above
    # 159/1000 - No picture sleeve 
    # 198/1000 - No picture sleeve (this copy has baiting the public vinyl according to Sarah's list)
    The following copies also do not have picture sleeves:
    # 106/1000
    # 164/1000
    # 166/1000 
    # 170/1000
    # 186/1000 
       
     # 203/1000 - ''Two figures 'wrestling' in front of a vehicle'' 
    # 207/1000 - 'Man walking past oriental text banner'
    # 228/1000 - 'Kid with cowboy gun' 
    #?/1000 - Bonnie 'fellating' a soda bottle. (Image of Faye Dunaway as 'Bonnie' From the movie 'Bonnie & Clyde')
    (Number info unavailable)
    #?/1000  - 'Two school girls in boater hats with a dog' Image used on 1988 Quantas airlines advert (number info unavailable)


    #?/1000  - Saddam Hussein with sword (number info unavailable)
    (as seen on ebay - same image as 59, 61 & 65, but confirmed as not being one of these)
    #?/1000 - Japanese communal bath (number info unavailable)


    Collection pic: The middle 2 records are 'Epics in Minutes' The left-hand one is #88 (yet again). The right-hand one (trees and a basket-thing?) will have to remain a secret for the time-being.

    Bottom left hand side is 'Baiting The Public' (Wrong label version)

    #?/1000 - Extract from rejected image for 'Epics in Minutes' CD (Josh smirking)

    See comment below
    #?/1000 - Woman in (hospital?) bed. Top pic cover opened, bottom cover folded



    #? - #? - A box full of epics disks before they got packaged up and numbered